mod-dev-talk Thursday 15 July 2021

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Jack PapelTeam16:00
What do you guys think about these two?
cr24Team16:01
yes to tnt no to lightning
Jack PapelTeam16:01
What about during a thunderstorm?
cr24Team16:03
tnt makes some sense since it is experiencing force but the lightning rod doesn't make sense at all
Jack PapelTeam16:03
Fair point
I think it'd be fun tho
cr24Team16:04
during a thunderstorm i'd be okay with it
Jack PapelTeam17:01
What do you guys think about sufficiently large swets igniting Minecart tnt from the pressure?
AzzyypaarasTeam17:05
Replying toJack PapelWhat do you guys think about sufficiently large swets igniting Minecart tnt from the…
Nah, leave that to the vermillion swets
Wait uh, if you aren't staff you did not read that
That is secret 👀
Jack PapelTeam17:06
Lol I didn't even know about that
But sure
AzzyypaarasTeam17:06
Replying toJack PapelLol I didn't even know about that
shhh, they don't know that
I mainly just feel that that is perhaps a bit of a stretch
Jack PapelTeam17:11
Yeah, sure. I was on the edge about whether it made sense(edited)
AzzyypaarasTeam17:12
What I was getting to with the joke is the fact that we should not cram too many things into the current swets, our list of colors is not final and I would like more unique swets than a few swets that do a million things
Swets really do have a lot of potential from a design perspective, when you think about it, they are like chu chus in zelda
While they are simple enemies in principle, they excel in doing a certain thing: introducing players to mechanics
Jack PapelTeam17:14
Ah, like the fire chu chus setting stuff on fire lets the player know the dynamics of the fire system, and that it applies to almost everything in the game
AzzyypaarasTeam17:14
The first one is quite obvious in that the effects the swets themselves apply are generally weak enough, and the monsters themselves are fragile enough, that the player can learn what a mechanic is and how it functions without being faced against too large a challenge
AzzyypaarasTeam17:14
Replying toJack PapelAh, like the fire chu chus setting stuff on fire lets the player know the dynamics of…
Yes
And this same logic also stretches to another thing that we have not really discussed much about, but is extremely important when it comes to intuitive design, especially in a mod that focuses on adventure and combat
Color consistent design
~~or at least that is what I am calling it I am not sure if there is a proper term for it~~
People should be able to discern and assert how something is likely to behave, and how exactly it is about to fuck you over just by looking at it, and color is perhaps the single strongest tool for this
If you see a purple swet and it poisons you when you touch it, then when you later see a purple cockatrice you may guess it will also poison you in some way, and that guess should be true
This piece of design is particular essential when it comes to eliminating "how the fuck was I supposed to know that" moments, situations in which the player feels cheated because they were hit by something they could not see coming
Sincerely a vermillion swet would actually not be a bad idea if we ever add more spicy dangers to the aether, same with a color that is connected to lightning / electricity
Jack PapelTeam17:21
Yellow is generally the lightning color, but at the moment it's the buff color. Though tbh the buff color should probably be black or something that isn't yellow
AzzyypaarasTeam17:24
Replying toJack PapelYellow is generally the lightning color, but at the moment it's the buff color. Though…
Ok this gave me kind of a blessed idea
>golden swets are now associated with lightning
>golden oaks and amber are now also electric in nature
Jack PapelTeam17:24
Ooh
AzzyypaarasTeam17:24
>striking an oak sapling within the aether with lightning causes it to grow into a golden oak tree
AzzyypaarasTeam17:33
1.6 really gonna be da swet update
cr24Team17:36
what if i fixed aechor plant models and added a model and texture for cockatrices too haha
AzzyypaarasTeam17:38
nailuj17:40
Replying toAzzyypaarasNah, leave that to the vermillion swets
What's vermillion?
Jack PapelTeam17:40
Color
Pretty much a perfect red with a tiny tinge of orange
AzzyypaarasTeam17:41
Replying tonailujWhat's vermillion?
AzzyypaarasTeam18:48
@Jack Papel give me one reason why I should not spend the next hour reformatting our registries to look like ttlg's ones
Jack PapelTeam18:49
idk what ttlg's registries look like tbh
lemme check
AzzyypaarasTeam18:49
They look like this :3
That is, they don't separate declaring and initializing variables for no good reason
Jack PapelTeam18:50
Yeah that seems like a good idea
AzzyypaarasTeam18:50
The way our variables currently are makes it annoying to - oh wait you just agree?
Jack PapelTeam18:50
Sometimes I'll accidentally make a variable private and I won't even notice since it's all the way up there above the code
AzzyypaarasTeam18:50
Yes
ColdFlame5318:55
Maybe not a popular opinion but one kind of swet is more than enough
Jack PapelTeam18:56
Even the original Aether had 2
ColdFlame5318:56
Good thing this is Aether reborn. Original aether had flying pigs and cows too but they aint coming (;
Archanum18:56
Hot take They were dumb(edited)
A
AzzyypaarasTeam18:57
Very hot take: my nuts hang
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ColdFlame5318:57
So was having 2 swets its all opinionated (; im just making a point 😛
You guys can do better than another swet ! We’re more creative than that!
Cmon (;
AzzyypaarasTeam18:58
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AzzyypaarasTeam18:58
Replying toColdFlame53You guys can do better than another swet ! We’re more creative than that!
Oh trust me, swets are the least of what we have in plans
But I already mentioned why we want more swets and what role they fulfill
ColdFlame5318:59
Im really starting to think you may be a real demon 😅. Just leave my AerBunnies alone!
You monster 😈
AzzyypaarasTeam18:59
I am going to implement aerbunnies spontaneously combusting
ColdFlame5319:00
No !!! 😩
Archanum19:00
The flying salamurderscythes will take the lives of all your precious aerbunnies
ColdFlame5319:00
Evil!!! Pure Evil!!!!
Someone back me up! Aerbunny genocide is not cool!
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Jack PapelTeam19:01
All aerbunnies in a 5 block radius will try to run to hug you, but will disintegrate before they can. This is final
Archanum19:01
Only if you agree that forcing labor onto a villager is slavery.
ColdFlame5319:01
If they are not paid for said labor than yes its slavery
Jack PapelTeam19:01
Forcing labor onto a villager is slavery 100%
Archanum19:01
Then solly is a slave driver
ColdFlame5319:02
Whos solly ? Lol
AzzyypaarasTeam19:02
Clearly, villagers are based on jews, thus we can pressume they are not human.
Thus, they are not slaves, just work animals
ColdFlame5319:02
Holy shit
AzzyypaarasTeam19:02
Jack PapelTeam19:02
AZZY WHERE'S THE STRIKETHROUGH
Archanum19:02
omfg
Jack PapelTeam19:02
STRIKETHROUGH AZZY???(edited)
AzzyypaarasTeam19:02
Replying toJack PapelSTRIKETHROUGH AZZY???
ColdFlame5319:03
A good german lad ?
Whats going on here ?! 😂
Jack PapelTeam19:03
Average texan
AzzyypaarasTeam19:05
anyways uuuh
how do I apply accesswideners again?
it don't work
Jack PapelTeam19:05
you go to the aether.accesswideners or whatever and copy the one above it with the right info
Maybe put an L before net?
Lnet
Does something, I think
AzzyypaarasTeam19:06
I already did, but uh
How do you reload them again? I remember you had to do something to get them to apply
Jack PapelTeam19:06
Really? It usually works fine for me
AzzyypaarasTeam19:07
Jack PapelTeam19:07
I guess rebuild then
The one right above it (SpriteAwareFactory) is doing pretty much the same thing, so it should be the same as that
Jack PapelTeam21:37
It's 10:30pm here, so I'll be hitting the hay
ColdFlame5321:49
Jack are you in Europe ?
Jack PapelTeam21:52
On holiday 😄
ColdFlame5322:07
Wow! Even better ! And just the fact you used that terminology confirms it ! Mwahaha
Jack PapelTeam22:08
I'm not sure what you mean ?
Archanum22:09
Me neither
ColdFlame5322:18
Faerie vs Fairy etc etc. I’m on vacation vs I’m on holiday...
No ?
Jack PapelTeam22:18
Do British people say faerie?
ColdFlame5322:19
No they spell it that way
Jack PapelTeam22:19
Hm that's weird
ColdFlame5322:19
The english language is weird 😛 but you get what i meant now right ? Haha
Jack PapelTeam22:19
Yeah I see 😄
But no, I'm American lol
ColdFlame5322:20
Aww boo ),:
I think most of us are 😛
Jack PapelTeam22:20
I know at least Kalucky0 and profjb for sure aren't American
cr24Team22:36
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
AzzyypaarasTeam22:50
🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷
ColdFlame5322:51
My favorite place in Europe was France
Unless Ireland counts as Europe too
AzzyypaarasTeam22:51
Replying toColdFlame53My favorite place in Europe was France
wrong
ColdFlame5322:51
Wait how can that be wrong ? 😅
Archanum22:53
All Wrong