paradise-lost Thursday 15 April 2021

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Archanum03:55
Walls have feelings too you know.
I'm so excited that this is on Fabric!
I gonna try out the new stuff
cr24Team03:59
glad you're excited! It is a WIP so at the moment a lot of mobs and the dungeons are missing but if you have any feedback is greatly appreciated!
SweepSwap05:11
apparently the aether structures also spawn in the end
cursed
Haven King05:17
Lmao
@kalucky0 what did you do
nailuj05:23
Can I try to make aether village
Or is that already there
AzzyypaarasTeam05:24
What do you mean try to make?
nailuj05:24
I will likely fail
Self confidence ™
AzzyypaarasTeam05:25
Not exactly what I was referring to
Explain aether village.
nailuj05:26
Village in the aether
AzzyypaarasTeam05:26
Uh, I mean no, nobody has
nailuj05:26
Like with the aether wood
AzzyypaarasTeam05:27
But uh, that would be because the foundations for it are not in.
nailuj05:27
My phone's gonna die
That sounds important
What foundations do you mean
AzzyypaarasTeam05:27
Tldr: we don't have the mobs for it
nailuj05:27
Use villagers with a biome suit thing
AzzyypaarasTeam05:27
Also we will likely add blocks specific to that
AzzyypaarasTeam05:27
Replying tonailujUse villagers with a biome suit thing
See: no.
nailuj05:27
Whyn't
AzzyypaarasTeam05:28
Why would there be villagers in the aether
nailuj05:28
Recolor them
But use the villager mob
AzzyypaarasTeam05:28
Nail
Look at everything we have done
Every last drop of effort we have put into this
Now tell me to recolor them again.
nailuj05:29
How would trading work then
Wouldn't you have to use the villager for that
AzzyypaarasTeam05:29
There is this amazing thing called we can literally code new entities from scratch and do whatever we want because this is not a datapack
nailuj05:30
Yeah but how would you use the villager trading logic, in sure the code wouldn't be that neat
Also isn't the world gen json a datapack
AzzyypaarasTeam05:30
Replying tonailujAlso isn't the world gen json a datapack
Kind of, no.
It is a monstrosity created by Haven King
Haven King05:30
Replying tonailujYeah but how would you use the villager trading logic, in sure the code wouldn't be that…
You would extend AbstractTraderEntity. Many changes can be made after that.
Jack PapelTeam05:30
Replying tonailujYeah but how would you use the villager trading logic, in sure the code wouldn't be that…
public class [new mob] extends AbstractTraderEntity {(edited)
AzzyypaarasTeam05:30
Furthermore what does worldgen have to do with entities.
nailuj05:31
That exists?
You said it wasn't a datapack
AzzyypaarasTeam05:31
Replying tonailujThat exists?
Ok before you continue talking, how much do you know about java and how much do you know about modding.
AzzyypaarasTeam05:31
Replying tonailujYou said it wasn't a datapack
That is because it is not.
Haven King05:31
Some of the worldgen stuff is datapack, some isn't. It all should be, but I have no free time.
nailuj05:31
I know a lot about java
Not as much about modding
I haven't done that complicated stuff
AzzyypaarasTeam05:31
Replying toHaven KingSome of the worldgen stuff is datapack, some isn't. It all should be, but I have no free…
I am pretty sure that by definition it is still not a datapack
nailuj05:31
Not as much as this
nailuj05:32
Replying toAzzyypaarasI am pretty sure that by definition it is still not a datapack
Everything in resources/data is a datapack
Jack PapelTeam05:32
Basically Minecraft has different classes for different types of mobs. PassiveEntity, AnimalEntity, CowEntity, AbstractTraderEntity, etc.
AzzyypaarasTeam05:32
Replying tonailujEverything in resources/data is a datapack
By that logic anything in resources/assets is a texture pack
nailuj05:32
Yes, technically it is
Haven King05:32
Replying toAzzyypaarasI am pretty sure that by definition it is still not a datapack
All mod resources are loaded as either resource packs or data packs, yes.
AzzyypaarasTeam05:32
Replying tonailujYes, technically it is
I will slap you.
nailuj05:32
The game sees it as that
AzzyypaarasTeam05:32
Yes and it is cursed.
nailuj05:33
Replying toJack PapelBasically Minecraft has different classes for different types of mobs. PassiveEntity…
Cool, I didn't know that
AzzyypaarasTeam05:33
The game seeing it as a resource pack is a hack and it should not be talked as so because the user can't just take them on or off at will
nailuj05:33
Fabrics docs kinda suck
AzzyypaarasTeam05:33
They are essential to the function of hte mod and are, thus, assets.
AzzyypaarasTeam05:33
Replying tonailujFabrics docs kinda suck
Oh boy let me teach you about forge.
Also that is not something the fabric docs should or will cover
nailuj05:34
Modding docs suck in general
AzzyypaarasTeam05:34
That is just minecraft logic.
nailuj05:34
Ever tried to mod amogus?
AzzyypaarasTeam05:34
No.
But isn' that lua?
nailuj05:34
It's painful
No, it's c#
AzzyypaarasTeam05:34
Oh
Can't be that bad then
Haven King05:35
Gmods docs are really nice. But, well... That's also the whole point of the game.
AzzyypaarasTeam05:35
Regardless, that is besides the point
Villages are not a thing because they were not a thing in the original, there are plans for it after the initial port is released.
Specific plans, with specific lore connotations and mechanics.
nailuj05:36
is there a public rodamap with the future plans
AzzyypaarasTeam05:36
No
Jack PapelTeam05:37
Worldgen and entities would not be considered "datapack" in almost every case btw
kinda = "if you want to call it that"
AzzyypaarasTeam05:37
In no short part because that would spill features that are up in the air on whether they will be part of the mod or not and also because it would reveal various obscure mechanics and secrets.
nailuj05:38
this is in the data folder
nailuj05:38
Replying toAzzyypaarasIn no short part because that would spill features that are up in the air on whether…
its open source tho
there arent any secrets
AzzyypaarasTeam05:38
Replying toJack PapelWorldgen and entities would not be considered "datapack" in almost every case btw
This, they may be datapacks in the way they are hacked to function, but they are not in how they are used.
nailuj05:38
unless there is a private branch
Jack PapelTeam05:38
Yeah
AzzyypaarasTeam05:39
Ah yes because little jimmy can read through hundreds of lines of complex and hacky java code to figure out the secrets.
You and I can read that and figure out secrets with some effort, because without context a lot of the code's functions won't be particularly obvious
But most players cannot
And most players would not want to read it
Most people like going into things blind and figuring them out
nailuj05:40
people that want to contribute would
anyway gtg
Jack PapelTeam05:40
Alright peace. Have a good time
kalucky0Team05:53
Replying toHaven King@kalucky0 what did you do
Wdym
Haven King05:53
The Aether structures spawning everywhere but the Aether lol
Jack PapelTeam05:54
lol might have to get rid of a ! somewhere
kalucky0Team05:54
I told you already that I couldn't make them spawn in the Aether
AzzyypaarasTeam05:54
What did you try, exactly?
kalucky0Team05:55
I don't even remember. Some JSON shenanigans and boom registration or smth like that
AzzyypaarasTeam05:55
boom registration?
kalucky0Team05:55
Biome
I woke up 2 minutes ago
AzzyypaarasTeam05:55
Ah
Yo, can you read up a bit on what is now in #unknown and #unknown? Want your opinion on it
Side note but I am 0.05 seconds away from renaming half our advancements
Ehem
why do we have 3 different advancements for golden oak wood
kalucky0Team06:02
we really like golden oak wood
SweepSwap06:16
bro, thats kinda cringe
nailuj13:29
@Azzyypaaras if I ever have a terrible idea like that again, it means I'm sleep deprived
It was like 1:30 am when I had that idea
Archanum16:07
Is 1.17 on topic?
SweepSwap16:39
idk
depends on whether or not they are currently porting or planning to port it to the latest version of the snapshots, because they also have the port the components, like geckolib (not for long hopefully) and trinkets(edited)
Archanum16:41
They should skip porting till closer to the end of the year. The 1.17 update is being hacked in half, and I think its Garbo. (Should have just kept it whole and pushed it all back)(edited)
SweepSwap16:44
honestly i think they should port to 1.17a though, not just 1.17b
thats what i called the halves btw
Archanum16:45
no
SweepSwap16:46
don;t make me post among drip in #great-lounge , because you have no reason to say "no"
Archanum16:47
You right. Just a bit of facetiousness. I think im just gonna extend my hiatus till the end of the year.
SweepSwap16:49
imagine being facetious
couldn't be me
cr24Team17:12
We're planning to port to 1.17 but right now all focus is on finishing features, and we can worry about porting to 1.17 (i guess 1.17a for now) when it releases
SweepSwap19:40
when do you think that the mobs will be finished, or at least the ones that are done will be spawning in the aether
cr24Team19:46
azzy's working on moas, phygs and aercows are easy but might be spruced up a bit more than just ___ with wings, a few hostile ones are needed, and bosses will be last-ish since we have no dungeons either
I'd say maybe a month to be generous
for mobs besides bosses
Haven King19:47
Phygs and aercows definitely need to be more than just ___ with wings.
Aechor plants can basically be exactly the same though, I fuckin love those things 😤
smallEizens20:16
Yo is there like a guide to how you can use the aether reborn mod with curseforge?
nailuj20:17
Wdym
Curseforge is just a download site
Unless you mean the vastly inferior mod loader
@smallEizens
smallEizens20:19
lol yeah the loader, is there any way to do it with that?
nailuj20:19
Pinned
But fabric is better
You get immersive portals
And it's faster
cr24Team20:19
you mean in the curse launcher?
I'm not sure fabric is supported yet
smallEizens20:19
yeah but all my shaders are already loaded to the curseforge launcher lol 😔
nailuj20:19
Why is fabric so unsupported
Copy them over
cr24Team20:20
@smallEizens do you mean the curse launcher of the forge modloader
smallEizens20:20
launcher
nailuj20:21
Don't you not even use curse anymore
cr24Team20:21
only forge modpacks are compatible with the launcher iirc, this is a fabric mod, so you'd need to do it through a fabric profile in the normal launcher
Haven King20:22
Or use jumploader.
smallEizens20:22
wait, so for a fabric profile do i just copy and paste fabric into a game version?
nailuj20:22
No, use their installer
That program is amazing
cr24Team20:22
the fabric installer (exe or jar) will create a profile in the normal launcher
smallEizens20:23
wait i already have a fabric version 🤨
cr24Team20:23
then you can drop mods into your mod folder in .minecraft
smallEizens20:24
wait i think i remember having a different issue with fabric though, give me a second
nailuj20:24
Update it
You might have an old loader
smallEizens20:26
It's the same one as the one in the picture above, but my issue wasn't with fabric, it was w/ the mods, they aren't loading into my game
cr24Team20:28
they have to be fabric mods not forge mods, and if you're crashing check if it says you have a wrong version or need another mod library or something
S
smallEizens20:29
yeah your right, i had the curseforge version of the aether reborn (which coincidentally was for an older version for some reason), and the other mod i was trying to get was for forge as well
20:29
thank yall lmao
- 👍1
AzzyypaarasTeam20:30
Ewe
What did I miss
Just got back from schoolm
smallEizens20:40
one more issue, optifine does not seem to want to work with fabric
kalucky0Team20:41
Well, Optifine doesn't work with Fabric
You would have to use optifabric
But it doesn't work with The Aether iirc
smallEizens20:42
ohmahlawd
does it just not work in the aether, or at all with the aether installed(edited)
kalucky0Team20:43
It doesn't work at all with Aether installed
smallEizens20:43
laaaame
kalucky0Team20:43
I haven't tried myself but people reported issues
You can try and report
smallEizens20:44
yeah i was bout to say ill try it then
yeah it just crashed as soon as you load into the game
without it in the folder it works though
kalucky0Team20:49
Any logs?
smallEizens20:51
2021-04-15-7.log.gzFile, 4 KB. Not stored in the archive.
that may not be the right one hold on
cr24Team20:52
it should be the latest.log
smallEizens20:53
yeah but i was loaded in without it installed so i wasn't sure which one was it
latest.logText file, 15 KB. Not stored in the archive.
kalucky0Team20:56
As expected
Mixins
smallEizens20:56
?
AzzyypaarasTeam20:56
Huh
Where?
Oh I had not expanded tht
kalucky0Team21:01
https://github.com/devs-immortal/The-Aether/blob/master/src/main/java/com/aether/mixin/client/BackgroundRendererMixin.java
GitHub
devs-immortal/The-Aether
The Aether mod port for Fabric 1.16.4. Contribute to devs-immortal/The-Aether development by creating an account on GitHub.
That's the one I think
smallEizens21:02
wait wdym
kalucky0Team21:03
That's the mixin that causes Optifine to not be compatible with The Aether
AzzyypaarasTeam21:03
Correction
It is the one that crashes first
kalucky0Team21:04
Ah yes, haven't thought of that
AzzyypaarasTeam21:04
It is perfectly possible that we have other incompatible mixins that do not get the chance to crash before this one
Our triple clouds would almost certainly bork
kalucky0Team21:04
Is there even a fix for that?
AzzyypaarasTeam21:05
No.
Nor should we bother to look for that, fabric itself does not support optifine, we should not either
The creator of optifabric himself said it was a horrible mess and ended up abandoning it
iirc chocapic picked it up recently and he has resorted to just straight up hardcoding compat
It is awful
kalucky0Team21:06
You are right
But...
You are now supposed to interrupt me
AzzyypaarasTeam21:07
If you say so
You can do your own thing, create your own branch to try and support opti even
However I will not support this and I will most certainly not tolerate having my code mangled for this.
kalucky0Team21:08
After I graduate I will have too much time on my hands
And I will certainly try
AzzyypaarasTeam21:08
Use it to get a better computer first
Probs not going to get much of anywhere if you can barely run the game
kalucky0Team21:08
I don't have enough money
You know how shitty Polish currency is?
AzzyypaarasTeam21:10
hmph
kalucky0Team21:10
I can buy myself a motherboard and a stick of 8GB DDR4
It's a stick, isn't it? We call them cubes in Polish
AzzyypaarasTeam21:12
Yeah, typical term is stick
kalucky0Team21:13
A cube of RAM 😳
AzzyypaarasTeam21:14
Time to make a mod that just adds a block of ram
kalucky0Team21:22
We should just make a mod that allows you to build a PC
AzzyypaarasTeam21:25
iirc someone has already done that
kalucky0Team21:26
:(
I think I'll become full time modder
F my job
AzzyypaarasTeam21:27
nailuj21:27
Replying tokalucky0We should just make a mod that allows you to build a PC
someone did that, but they are vms
AzzyypaarasTeam21:27
Time to reintroduce the patreon moas
nailuj21:27
like actual computers
AzzyypaarasTeam21:27
Yes, that mod was unholy
And also painfully sp exclusive
nailuj21:28
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/vm-computers
its so cursed
kalucky0Team21:28
Replying toAzzyypaarasTime to reintroduce the patreon moas :yeefuckinhaw:
I read moans
AzzyypaarasTeam21:28
No no, those are only for the ones that subscribe to the onlyfans
They get the special valkyrie content(edited)
kalucky0Team21:28
Ah yess
AzzyypaarasTeam21:29
Stupidity aside, reintroducing some donator stuff may not be an entirely bad idea
Money could be used to fund some stuff like a testing server and a soundtrack
Remember when Kara was not dead? Good times(edited)
@Haven King @cr24 opinions?
Haven King21:32
I'm unsure what kind of donation perks we'd offer, but I'm open to the idea of a patreon or something.
AzzyypaarasTeam21:32
We could have some of the old stuff
Back in the day there were special moa skins for donators
Could also have a few other things, like maybe giving the player (decorative) wings and or some kind of halo-like thing
Something like what Illuminations does
I have another idea but I am going to keep that one to #unknown
Jack PapelTeam21:37
Replying tokalucky0We should just make a mod that allows you to build a PC
ComputerCraft is one of the most famous minecraft mods
AzzyypaarasTeam21:38
Replying toJack PapelComputerCraft is one of the most famous minecraft mods
Is that really building a pc?
OpenComputers is closer to that imho
Jack PapelTeam21:39
You can make a disk drive 😁
That's pretty much the extent of it tho
Unless you count mining turtles as "building a pc"
AzzyypaarasTeam21:39
Yeah no I remembered right
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/opencomputers Opencomputers is def the full ride
SweepSwap22:21
Replying toAzzyypaarasThey get the special valkyrie content
lmao this is comedy fucking gold
A
AzzyypaarasTeam22:22
valkyrie milk moment
- 4
SweepSwap22:28
om my fucking god
nailuj22:29
Replying toAzzyypaarasvalkyrie milk moment
oh no
~~add it to the mod~~
FoundationGames22:56
Replying tonailujadd it to the mod
https://discord.com/channels/770691727568404521/770691728528769036/828344113937121290
nailuj22:57
yes
Moises23:05
Replying toAzzyypaarasvalkyrie milk moment
wtf
nailuj23:25
how much effort would be needed to make immersive aether portals
SweepSwap23:33
some
cr24Team23:35
it would take effort of some quantity(edited)