#great-lounge Thursday 10 February 2022
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Replying toAzzyypaarasnew rule just dropped :smug:
I am going to send you to the half mile deep ethanol mars lake - A
Replying toLarry Cable GuyI am going to send you to the half mile deep ethanol mars lake
No, I drunk it - L
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Replying toDbpi dont have any hosting so i just use a small matrix homeserver and a discord-matrix…
ye but where do you host your matrix homeserver08:50also @Dbp how tf is rust not programming
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Replying toAkuye but where do you host your matrix homeserver
I don't, like I said I use a small public home server that someone has and my other friends use - A
Replying toDbpI don't, like I said I use a small public home server that someone has and my other…
Ahh I see just ask them to host the discord bot or smth - DNot really any reason to this exists https://www.t2host.io/discord/t2bot.io - Discord BridgeLearn how to set up t2bot.io's Discord Bridge13:10The way the discord bridge sort of works anyway is like a fake home server with just the discord accounts13:11Anyone can just make a room on any home server and bridge it with this and no hosting which is nice
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- J15:32Some people like only do those things for a living
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Replying toJack PapelWait how is python and JavaScript not programming
ye some people sit in a chair for a living - C15:59javascript can die but python and rust are good languages
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- K16:01great even
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Replying toJack PapelWait how is python and JavaScript not programming
in those cases, its more that they are scripting than programming, sure you can call bash programming but i feel like that complicates the discussion when it comes to java and c - J
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Replying toJack PapelI'd consider scripting a subset of programming
my issue with that, is, theres no subset for non scripting currently16:12unless you call "low level programming" a subset but thats overly specific and doesnt include java which id also talk about - J
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- GRust is designed to be hard to use, the two package managers you have to install are a bit excessive, the compilers don't always work, packages randomly break when downloading, nightly features are more new enough for some packages, the std lib is missing a lot, static linking by default to create huge binaries and use more memory, memory safety is a lie still segfaults, I'm probably missing stuff.16:29Rust, the node of native languages.
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- G16:31It took three days of retrying clean installs to get it to install correctly and have all of the 400+ packages install just to use the thing.
- KIt is one of the easiest languages I've ever used, the compiler is extremely fast and reliable, has great errors, there are packages for everything and I've never had any problems with them, nightly works fine even though it's nightly, I don't use std, binaries are very small and programs written is Rust are fast and use very little memory
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Replying togudenauIt took three days of retrying clean installs to get it to install correctly and have…
You have to be doing something wrong because it always works great for me - G16:33It's one of the worst languages I've ever used.
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- GI didn't copy and paste everything blindly, I read through it and copied it to make sure it was right.(edited)16:35I don't remember its name right now.
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Replying togudenauWill since you love it, how do I use a and o files?
wtf are a and o files - G
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- K16:42Wdym by forcing
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- G16:42We have DevkitARM64 to compile stuff.
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Replying toAzzyypaarasEasy solution really, make your own toolchain
That's not easy and it would likely break every single other mod for this game. - A
- K16:45Life isn't easy
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- K16:46It might be because copilot is helping me but still
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- C16:50you have to try hard to get rust to even compile if a segfault is possible
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Never printed child or parent, only segfaults.fn main(){ println!("Hello!"); var pid = fork(); if(pid < 0){ println!("Failed"); }else if(pid == 0){ println!("Child"); }else{ println!("Parent"); } }16:51I don't know, all I know is the language doesn't even do what it promises.16:51I need to go do stuff. - K
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Replying tokalucky0@CDAGaming use an international datetime format
yyyy/mm/dd is a good choice - K16:52and GMT
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- K16:54You're also a nerd
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- K17:00I rarely use Twitter
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- KC/C++ have a little bit different paradigm than Rust And there are better ways than using fork Don't ask me what are they because I don't remember now17:03Rust is more unsafe than C/C++ when you're doing unsafe stuff because... reasons That's why you should always be safe :>
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- K17:03There is no reason to use Rust over C/C++(edited)
- Gfork is well defined and you know the exact state you'll be in after calling it based on the return code, calling out unsafe is dumb.17:05I really hate the people that tell you to use Rust when it can't do the most basic of tasks.
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Replying tokalucky0Well, if you prefer C++ and are better at it you should use it instead
I am pretty sure the reason why this argument even started is because he is being forced to use rust - G17:07No it started because people said it was a working language. :V
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fn main() { let pid = fork(); match pid.expect("Fork Failed: Unable to create child process!") { Child => println!( "Hello from child process with pid: {} and parent pid:{}", getpid(), getppid() ), Parent { child } => { wait(); println!( "Hello from parent process with pid: {} and child pid:{}", getpid(), child ); } } } - G
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- K17:08It's basically a switch statement
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- A17:09This will not stop me from being obnoxious.
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- G17:20I don't know Rust, I don't want to spend hours testing his claims.
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Replying toAzzyypaarasI am pretty sure the reason why this argument even started is because he is being forced…
apparently the argument started because of my bio, which is why i refuse to elaborate on my bio lol - L
- C20:26its a vanilla plus mod

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- L20:29I would argue its more so said mobs are not the main focus20:30thermal has a bunch of mobs, but its still a tech mod20:32one of these days im gonna make a shitty thaumcraft texture pack that just changes blocks and wording to be more sciency to really hammer in the point that it is in fact a tech mod under a thin veil of mysticism
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Replying tocr24the only real difference is that tech mods dont have bosses or other mobs
That is a pretty big difference - C
- Lthat would imply botania buildcraft and ic2 are not tech mods bc their power systems are self contained21:16not to mention vis DOES have a conversion rate to rf, given the existence of base tc6's vis generators
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- CI would consider BC energy to be not self contained, and TC6 is heresy so I don't count it
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Replying tocr24I would consider BC energy to be not self contained, and TC6 is heresy so I don't count it
mj, since pre and post 1.7.10, cznnot be transformed without an extra mod - L
Replying tocr24I like puzzles, TC4 is superior, cope
its perfectly fine the first or second time, after that it s just tedious - C
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- Li tend to be of the belief that tc4 is the most loved purely bc addoms made it super op in the golden age of powercreep22:15you cant exactly compare it to base tc6 bc tc6 was necer finished
- Ci don't particularly like the content addons for TC4, I appreciate the compat addons though for blood magic and botania and stuff22:15Thaumic Tinkerer is def op(edited)
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