paradise-lost Tuesday 8 November 2022

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Deleted User09:56
apparently 1.19.3 has more refactors
again
are mojang trying to kill modding or something
what's their problem?
AzzyypaarasTeam11:09
Replying toDeleted Userwhat's their problem?
I mean
They are developing a game
Not sure what you expect them to do
Deleted User11:10
to not constantly refactor things unnecessarily
they constantly change resource loading
and world gen
AzzyypaarasTeam11:10
I don't see how the refactors are unnecessary?
Deleted User11:10
World gen and resource loading is definitely unnecessary
They can't make up their mind
if it helped (like the item registration) then that's good. but their refactors make the game run slower
AzzyypaarasTeam11:11
Annoying, yes, unnecessary? I don't feel so. Often times they result in either
better performance better datapack support or support for new systems
amidst a few other things
Deleted User11:11
Better perf? not to my knowledge
AzzyypaarasTeam11:12
First one of those is actually quite relevant to the recent rendering changes
Deleted User11:12
Datapacks are the reason why worldgen is slow
AzzyypaarasTeam11:12
Replying toDeleted UserBetter perf? not to my knowledge
Worldgen and friends tend to fit in the later two categories
Deleted User11:13
it seems to get more limited
and harder to work with
This is literally the reason why paradise lost is ridiculously hard to get working properly
bc the worldgen is a complete mess
AzzyypaarasTeam11:14
Replying toDeleted UserThis is literally the reason why paradise lost is ridiculously hard to get working…
That is wrong, actually
Deleted User11:14
Data should stick with small things like recipes and tags
AzzyypaarasTeam11:14
It gets harder to work with because worldgen is very poorly documented, and that tends to worsen over versions
Not so much so due to the changes themselves
Deleted User11:15
Worldgen is also harder because of the spaghetti code
It definitely did not used to be like this
Because its all wrapped in CODEC's now
AzzyypaarasTeam11:15
Listen kid, I am going to be straight with you. The whole ohhh mojang is trying to kill modded is, I feel, something that primarily modded players and sprouting modders say.
Maybe I've just gotten desensitized to it, but it is just part of being a modder.
Deleted User11:16
Replying toAzzyypaarasListen kid, I am going to be straight with you. The whole ohhh mojang is trying to kill…
I never said it as a statement, but a rhetorical question(edited)
obviously going out of ones way to makes no sense, but they sure aren't helping
AzzyypaarasTeam11:16
Replying toDeleted UserI never said it as a statement, but a rhetorical question
That is... lets just leave it at people say that
Deleted User11:17
Ok
AzzyypaarasTeam11:17
Point is, it really... isn't? As big a deal as people make it seem?
I mean, it is annoying yes, and seasoned modders will bitch because well it is fair enough.
Deleted User11:18
Replying toAzzyypaarasPoint is, it really... isn't? As big a deal as people make it seem?
It is annoying but I do think the community has a victim complex
AzzyypaarasTeam11:18
But players and newbies tend to ride the wave without really understanding what the fuzz is about and while also really being overly dramatic.
Deleted User11:18
Replying toAzzyypaarasBut players and newbies tend to ride the wave without really understanding what the fuzz…
Yeah I agree
AzzyypaarasTeam11:18
Replying toDeleted UserIt is annoying but I do think the community has a victim complex
This
Deleted User11:18
Look at the chat reports lol
"OMG MC IS OVER"
Like chill
every other game had it
AzzyypaarasTeam11:19
Modded is not going to die for... really too many reasons to list. It shifts and twists, as ever, and it may get more or less annoying to do over time - I would say we are in an era of unique ease.
Deleted User11:19
I say, it's just an uneasy transition phase
AzzyypaarasTeam11:19
But overall, just part of the fray. You get used to it as you become more seasoned.
Deleted User11:19
Fair enough
I'm positive that modloaders will eventually develop tools to make things easier, as they always have
AzzyypaarasTeam11:20
Fabric is actually pretty good in that regard
Deleted User11:20
Plus C2ME practically resolves worldgen issues
Deleted User11:20
Replying toAzzyypaarasFabric is actually pretty good in that regard
I agree
AzzyypaarasTeam11:21
While in theory it is supposed to be lighter weight than forge, its apis are much better and much more consistent. Updates tend to be mostly handled by fapi unless it is something really big
And even if, the migration tends to be pretty smooth.
Deleted User11:21
I agree with that
Forge does more refactors then mojang 😂
YourBoyslan13:10
bro WHY DOES THIS MOD NHAVGE NOTHING IN IT!!!!! LOL WHY DID THE CREATOR OF BETTER MINECRAFT ADD THJIS DIMENSION MOD AND NOT TWILIGHT FOREST OR THE REAL AETHER MOD!!! 😦
DafuqsTeam13:12
Replying toYourBoyslanbro WHY DOES THIS MOD NHAVGE NOTHING IN IT!!!!! LOL WHY DID THE CREATOR OF BETTER…
You are always free to help out adding more stuff
Jack PapelTeam13:12
Neither of those have been ported to 1.19 yet 😂
YourBoyslan13:12
Im playing 1.18
Jack PapelTeam13:12
Or 1.18
Aether is still stuck on 1.12 afaik
YourBoyslan13:13
man bumblezone was the only decent dimension mod addes to our world
eden ring looks like it sucks
YourBoyslan13:13
Replying toDafuqsYou are always free to help out adding more stuff
How can I help?
Jack PapelTeam13:14
Do you know how to program in Java?
or draw pixel art well?
YourBoyslan13:14
No
I have no talent
Jack PapelTeam13:14
Everybody's got talent, you probably jsut haven't found it yet
YourBoyslan13:16
I'm sorry but I just don't think I can help
Jack PapelTeam13:16
That's all good, I just didn't want you going around thinking you don't have talent
Thanks for letting us know your thoughts on the mod though!
YourBoyslan13:23
the mod looks great so far I just wish 80% of the cool things I was looking forward too are locked behind creative
Jack PapelTeam13:24
Mm, yeah
The gravitite tools and aerclouds are pretty fun to use
Especially in combination
YourBoyslan13:56
what do they do in combination
Jack PapelTeam13:56
You can find out
Katie15:33
Replying toYourBoyslanbro WHY DOES THIS MOD NHAVGE NOTHING IN IT!!!!! LOL WHY DID THE CREATOR OF BETTER…
Paradise Lost is indev, I personally think that should cause modpack creators to consider waiting before adding it but that's the reality of the situation. The reason my project (The Aether) isn't included in packs like that yet is because we aren't releasing our indev 1.19 port to Curseforge until it's no longer indev for that exact reason. We don't want unfinished work being represented in modpacks 😂 You're right tho Twilight Forest not being included is wild, easily the best dimension mod
also the Aether isn't being worked on for Fabric (yet) whereas Paradise Lost is
so it works as a decent stand in for players wanting a skylands experience
Purpypurppurp18:39
hello I've got a question where can ambrosia ore be found?
Jack PapelTeam19:56
Pretty much everywhere
Purpypurppurp21:46
what about the aechor plants? where can i find them?
Jack PapelTeam21:46
They should spawn around the place
Purpypurppurp21:47
where? is it a specific biome they spawn in the most?
Jack PapelTeam21:47
Highlands Plains I think
Purpypurppurp21:50
thx jack papel also one last question how can you obtain a moa egg? as I've been waiting around but none laid a egg
Jack PapelTeam21:55
Iirc they lay an egg after they are bred
@Azzyypaaras can you confirm?
cr24Team21:59
tfw no moa faq
Purpypurppurp23:17
ah so how do i get these aechor plant to show?(edited)
as I am clueless and have yet to see one
Jack PapelTeam23:25
Might just be unlucky so far
Purpypurppurp23:26
i've looked in that biome you told me to check out but no luck
Jack PapelTeam23:26
Hmm
cr24Team23:34
i know they're in wisteria woods
Purpypurppurp23:38
okay
cr24Team23:39
you'll know when you see them though
Purpypurppurp23:56
kk thx 24Chrome