#paradise-lost Wednesday 28 September 2022

what if i drop $200

PL has moas

you can essentially use all the models

they look different

that is very cool

we don't have permission to use the original models, although we would want to update them to look better either way

porting* and to fabric

but also unfortunately development has halted until further notice for PL

you wont need permission

we actually already have an updated aerwhale model too

sorry for ya time X)

we can't just take them

not if its recoded , otherwise your basically saying pixel art is NFTs

the art is all rights reserved though

even a slight change as size u can

you literally can't, the rights are owned and reserved by the orginal creators

you should study those laws, otherwise medicine wouldnt work irl if it was that way, you can mix chemicals for new purpous irl

it's literally theft using them without permission

your idea on copyright stops innovation

then we can't use the same models or textures

As far as I know, any work of art is implicitly copyrighted by its author, unless released under a specific liberal license. though the laws on that probably differ greatly depending on the country you live in. In terms of mods, honestly, it's all pretty inconsequential; those mods are all free anyway.

okay well it's still a dick move to use other people's assets, even if you'd never actually get sued or face legal consequences, it's more a common courtesy

that is nothing simular

yeah and that addon was enormously problematic legally, and was removed from the store

no it aint

I'm aware. that addon was removed at one point from a request by the original devlopers iirc, and was reuploaded

it got reuploaded, i said in my message above

nothing on there says it was

it's old news at this point, and the addon itself had a lot of other issues too but it's past

and its still purchaseable

we already discussed our version of the aether with the original team, they're in this discord. We respected the rights reserved on their assets, and their requests to not tread on the aether name, as well as differentiated ourselves at one point. We don't intend to tread on their ip, nor steal any of their assets, end of discussion.

so your basically saying your a shitty replica

you seem to not really know much about this project. Read some of the announcements and take a look at the descriptions available for the mod, we didn't stop working because we were worried about IP or rights, we had our own plans, we haven't aimed to be an Aether copy, but a skylands dimension inspired by it. We stopped working because we all have lives and don't have time to invest in fixing a mod that has a huge amount of code that needs to be managed, and it's a lot for any team to work on. It's not about remaking something, it's about creating a new experience, and we do it in our free time as a hobby, we all have classes and/or jobs to do, and for many of us this fell to the wayside as more important duties call. Sorry to disappoint you with our lack of progress, if you're so unhappy, leave the server and don't come back, it's ridiculous to be negative towards people over a project they work on as a hobby, we don't owe you anything, try being kinder to people or at least understand why they do or don't do things.

never said u owe me, u have a real issue with communication

Putting up a message in #announcements that you are shelving the project is for building hype...? What in the world are you talking about?

i offer $200 cash consecutive weeks u can have to develop

you should check #announcements like I suggested, we announced stopping work a while ago, and final changes are being done to put it to rest

then fucking post that!!!!!

okay

Kyson they have already explained there reasoning yet you seem so focused on trying to dictate what's right. They already did there best and have stuff to do. And any frankly any hobby like this one shouldn't end up having to override important life tasks anyways

aaand it does not matter anymore since they're gone

Wuh

thanks for helping guys I literally don't know what to do with people that entitled with that poor of takes

I smell skill issues

u arnt stealing if u port

You are slandering us for not knowing anything about copyright, yet you make this sort of claim?

tldr: ignore rights holders wishes to just take aether assets so that development is faster, if you mod as a hobby you should tell people, because they deserve mods or at least you need to tell them its not a priority in your life

Is this maidenless, fatherless, knockoff yeezys using ass tryna bribe us into working on pl with deadass less than minimuk wage after pulling a redditor(edited)

also saying that the aether addon is okay because it's still on the store

From what I've seen with the idea the project was heading, doing this would literally not speed up anything. It would just hurt PL by restricting itself as an Aether Expansion instead of its own project

oh and the PL is a knockoff because it's not a port is an epic take too

yeah p much

Yeah, PL was on the fast line to diverging content and themes

metallurgy 4 isnt even made by the metallurgy team

MM started as a M4R port, then took a stand in the most basic parts of Metallurgy

Ok so it is metallurgy: scholar of the first sin then(edited)

Then after a while I realized that most of the metals were kinda shit, so they were culled

WAIT SO IT IS METALLURGY 4: 2 SOTFS THEN

Maybe?

And from that re-work, I finally ended up with something new

i did

aqui

whole heartedly agree on this, and even though we may not have gotten as far with it as we originally intended, we did learn a lot from the experience as well as the expectations that come with it. For me personally, I do plan to use some of that experience at some point in 2023, when/if the main Aether project reaches a stable base (No spoilers on what, but it should be a good surprise when everything is ready for it)

also this, absolutly made me laugh xD(edited)

@kalucky0 are you still working on it?😂

We're working on it.

☝️this

Yo🔥🔥 Any estiminated release time?

Nope.