paradise-lost Saturday 24 July 2021

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Deleted User00:07
is there a forge version?
SweepSwap00:08
no
Jack PapelTeam00:08
Pins
SweepSwap00:08
cda plans to port it solo once 1.17 comes out for forge
Jack PapelTeam00:08
Or #unknown
SweepSwap00:09
all development on 1.16.5 has been stopped atm
Jack PapelTeam00:10
I wouldn't hold my breath, he's talked about it, but the team might object to a public release when the time comes
CDAGamingTeam00:21
Replying toSweepSwapcda plans to port it solo once 1.17 comes out for forge
Those plans are on hold until further notice.
As it turns out, Forge 1.17.1 does not have support for mixingradle, and bc the aether is legit 25% mixins, I cant do anything atm Aditionally, due to the large amount of changes made since my last no dependencies build, my prior way of doing it failed spectacularly so Ill have to beat my head against that at a later time.
But also, as of late, multiple scenarios came about where such an idea, if anything, would only cause unneeded issues for the remainder of the team among other things. So while everything works in a theoretical scope, any type of forge plans are shut off until further notice.
SweepSwap00:48
wait fuck
it literally just came out
did 1.16.5 support mixingradle?
CDAGamingTeam01:34
Yup
MixinGradle needs updates on their end
As FG is unwilling to add back the legacy methods that would have restored compatibility, for good reason
As basically in FG5 they are trying to phase out all the old FML logic which includes that older mixingradle logic
SweepSwap01:36
are they working on mixingradle support?
CDAGamingTeam01:37
The pr has already been submitted
MixinGradle needs to accept it and push a new release
six03:43
@Azzyypaaras 'moas are carnivores' https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Leafy_Meat
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AzzyypaarasTeam03:44
SollyTeam04:17
Aether reborn reborn when
AzzyypaarasTeam04:20
Aether unborn
cr24Team04:29
aether afterborn+
AzzyypaarasTeam04:30
aether rebingus
Archanum04:44
Aether Unbirthing Reborn(edited)
Now we claim the acronym and make Linux users mad
AzzyypaarasTeam04:46
wait
but I am a linux user
Archanum04:47
Well just Arch Linux users(edited)
AzzyypaarasTeam04:49
but I am an arch linux user
Archanum04:55
Then be mad because AUR now stands for Aether Unbirthing Reborn
You can have AUS instead, for Arch User Suppository. And fight with the flaming land down under
AzzyypaarasTeam04:57
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ColdFlame5305:53
Aechor plants shoot poison barbs
And there those guys who are like friendly ghasts that shoot the snowballs
Monozari06:24
man I can't wait for 1.17.1 release
SollyTeam07:26
Replying toArchanumThen be mad because AUR now stands for Aether Unbirthing Reborn
As an aur maintainer, I am fine with that
Jovian09:18
CDAGamingTeam15:33
Replying toMonozariman I can't wait for 1.17.1 release
But 1.5.0 already supports 1.17.1 😄
Monozari16:36
curseforge release
Jack PapelTeam16:37
1.5.0 is on curseforge, yes
Monozari19:48
yeah but it doesn't say it supports 1.17.1
therefor the curseforge launcher doesn't accept it as one
which means no modpack
Jack PapelTeam19:49
You can still put the mod in the mods folder
Monozari19:56
trutrutru
does 1.5.0 have all those bugs though
since I don't want my game to crash when looking at aether animals
CDAGamingTeam19:58
It shouldnt crash unless you spawn something that isnt implemented on purpose
Kuro Yure20:04
are gloves implemented
the wiki does not say anything
Jack PapelTeam20:06
The wiki is very much in progress at the moment
Gloves are in the game, but they are not functional yet(edited)
CDAGamingTeam20:41
You can equip them, but they won't do anything yet until we establish what they should canonically do
ColdFlame5321:18
They keep hands warm while using the freezer! Fuggin duh ya dumbies !
CDAGamingTeam21:32
Lots of server updates in this next reboot
AzzyypaarasTeam21:32
Replying toCDAGamingLots of server updates in this next reboot
Do they include the new aerclouds? 👀
CDAGamingTeam21:32
Latest commit, plus the commit im about to push shortly
The CPI changes are also quite a bit
As it's going from b33 to b38 (As b39 isn't out yet nor will be available in time)
@Kyrptonaught Got some suggestions for you too
A) frameBlock could use Block... in order to allow specifying multiple blocks that can be used for the portal(edited)
KyrptonaughtTeam21:38
I’m just getting settled into work, I think I can have beta 39 out in an hour? Beta 38 also has some accidental systouts left in there by mistake
KyrptonaughtTeam21:40
Replying toCDAGamingA) frameBlock could use Block... in order to allow specifying multiple blocks that can…
This has been the plan from the start, and a lot of things behind the scenes have been done with this in mind. I do plan to have this implemented before the 1.0.0 release

CDAGamingTeam21:40

Ah alrighty, I can postpone the restart until then in that case 😄 Currently porting to the newer api, so I'm also likely to postpone to test the changes too!

The other thing, is instead of flatPortal, it would be better to have a dynamic call to specify in which ways it can be placed (An enum could be used here containing BOTH, FLAT, and STANDING)

public CustomPortalBuilder returnDim(Identifier returnDimID, boolean onlyIgnitableInReturnDim) {
        portalLink.returnDimID = returnDimID;
        portalLink.onlyIgnitableInReturnDim = onlyIgnitableInReturnDim;
        return this;
    }

    /**
     * Specify that this portal can only be ignited in the Overworld
     * Attempting to light it in other dimensions will fail
     */
    public CustomPortalBuilder onlyLightInOverworld() {
        portalLink.onlyIgnitableInReturnDim = true;
        return this;
    }

For this logic, shouldn't onlyLightInOverworld also set the returnDimID?

KyrptonaughtTeam21:47
Return dim by default is overworld, I suppose I could make that set it too just to make sure the user didn’t change it
CDAGamingTeam21:48
Definitly would, at least to foolproof the implementation 😄(edited)
KyrptonaughtTeam21:51
Flat portals also aren’t fully implemented yet. They do light properly most of the time, but the portal spawning on the other side is not implemented yet. I think it crashes actually trying to create the destination portal. If the user were to use “both”, what type of portal should spawn on the other side?
Should that be specifiable?
CDAGamingTeam21:51
The type of portal that the user creates
IE if you make a flat portal, a flat portal shows on the other side
and vice versa xD
KyrptonaughtTeam21:54
Makes sense. I think I’ll keep your enum idea and also add a CUSTOM option. As the current system is designed to be extendable, nothing is hard coded. So a dev could theoretically implement their own logic for portal shaping.
Archanum21:54
Kuro Yure21:54
Replying toCDAGamingYou can equip them, but they won't do anything yet until we establish what they should…
armor?, seems intuitive to me
just add some apropriate enchantments and go with it
Archanum21:55
*at work (sad panda) will read later #bookmark
CDAGamingTeam21:55
Replying toKuro Yurearmor?, seems intuitive to me
Trinkets apply extra effects from armor, unique to the armor set
A
AzzyypaarasTeam21:55
Amma say sometihng, and amma be very blunt about it
21:55
gloves being armor kind of sucks
- ☝️2
Kuro Yure21:55
its a glove, what else can it do?
CDAGamingTeam21:55
Though some of the effects used throughout the aether are no longer relevant, so that's where we need to re-investigate on what they should really do.
AzzyypaarasTeam21:56
The player does not need more defense, and when it comes to set bonuses you are just making them require more material
Jack PapelTeam21:56
It can grant effects to the wearer like in the original(edited)
AzzyypaarasTeam21:56
Aka more grind and more tank encouragement
Ideally we would detach gloves from armor sets and make them into their own trinkets with their own effects
Kuro Yure21:57
you can go the lazy way and just make them give minning/attack speed
AzzyypaarasTeam21:57
Replying toKuro Yureyou can go the lazy way and just make them give minning/attack speed
If we wanted to go the lazy way then this would still just be an Aether legacy port (edited)
CDAGamingTeam21:57
^^
This is NOT nor ever gonna go the lazy route, as we are taking genuine care over how we're doing this xD
AzzyypaarasTeam21:58
Indeed
Hell, I am currently thinking on upping things to five dungeons, that is like the opposite of lazy
CDAGamingTeam21:59
This is something that will meet or even surpass minecraft's modern standards 😄
AzzyypaarasTeam21:59
Mind you, thinking is the key word because 4 is already a lot
~~and also what I am thinking of is a water dungeon so~~
Kuro Yure21:59
imo unless yall do smth rly diferent with the combat, there is not much a glove can do
it protects hands, thats what they do
AzzyypaarasTeam22:00
Well, that is a boring take
That may be true irl, but we have m a g y c k here
CDAGamingTeam22:00
^^ If everything was as it was in reality, this would be the eauivalent to a more boring sims simulator
This isn't meant to represent reality.
Kuro Yure22:01
thats what enchantments are for tho
CDAGamingTeam22:01
Not every enchantment is protection
Kuro Yure22:01
i didnt say it was
CDAGamingTeam22:01
And just using preexisting data for everything is also a lazy approach
Kuro Yure22:02
i was thinking like, extra punching power
something i havent seen in other mods is like, instead of swords, just a big friggin gauntlet for punching
also like, where are all the crossbows?
AzzyypaarasTeam22:04
Replying toKuro Yurealso like, where are all the crossbows?
Hardcoded into vanilla
Crossbows, tridents, and shields are the holy trinity of "oh god mojang why"
Kuro Yure22:04
oh so we arent getting them ?
AzzyypaarasTeam22:04
Oh, we will be
Just later
CDAGamingTeam22:04
We'll just do things in a more extendable way xD
AzzyypaarasTeam22:04
You will know when they are coming from my substantial amounts of bitching
I just had a godly idea for gloves, specifically a way to keep gravitite ones
When worn you can use them to manipulate blocks, that is, you can pick up blocks, levitate them around, and throw them a things. Think earthbending
Something coming at you? rise a wall from the earth
Kuro Yure22:07
im not generaly a fabric guy so i migth not be arround to see it, but hoping i get arround seeing them
KyrptonaughtTeam22:26
@CDAGaming got dispenser buckets working. Need to get the skyroot bucket working now too. Seems you have a custom bucket implementation and not extending vanilla. Do you have a dispenser behavior set up for it? I can also get splash water potions working too quick
CDAGamingTeam22:27
I'd probably ask @Azzyypaaras as I'm prepping for a Wow raid atm, and didn't originally make that bucket class 😄
AzzyypaarasTeam22:27
Pretty sure @kalucky0 set that up
Jack PapelTeam22:29
Just tested, we don't have dispenser behavior
SollyTeam22:37
Replying toCDAGamingYou can equip them, but they won't do anything yet until we establish what they should…
Gravitite gloves should levitate chests whenever you try to open them
cr24Team22:37
lmao
KyrptonaughtTeam22:41
Replying toJack PapelJust tested, we don't have dispenser behavior
Thank you for testing!
Got splashed water working
Could you implement a dispenser behavior for your bucket? Similar to the vanilla bucket in DispenserBehaiver? Also in your bucket, can you make a call this.CPAonFluidPlaced somewhere when the fluid is placed? This will trigger the portal light attempt. This is implemented in the CustomPortalFluidProvider interface that your bucket does implement.
Gonna finish up my testing then release to my maven
Jack PapelTeam22:44
👍 sounds good
CDAGamingTeam22:46
@Jack Papel Ill give you responsibility to update the server tonight, as ill be in raid for a few hours. For tonight, just fapi and the aether need updates, though youll need to shutdown server first bc fapis update doesnt have the same filename.
Try not to blow up the infrastructure xD
Jack PapelTeam22:46
Oh, I was about to head to bed 😄
CDAGamingTeam22:47
Brrrrrr, who need sleep anyways xD
Jack PapelTeam22:47
haha
I'm sure @Azzyypaaras would love to do it in my absence
AzzyypaarasTeam22:48
wah
Jack PapelTeam22:49
This
@Jack Papel Ill give you responsibility to update the server tonight, as ill be in raid for a few hours. For tonight, just fapi and the aether need updates, though youll need to shutdown server first bc fapis update doesnt have the same filename.
AzzyypaarasTeam22:49
aaah
I don't have server access
Jack PapelTeam22:49
Oh, really?
Do you have a budget.bisecthosting.com acc?(edited)
CDAGamingTeam22:49
@Azzyypaaras Gib panel usernane
budget.bisecthosting site
Got around another 1h10m til raid so I got time to add ya
AzzyypaarasTeam22:52
Replying toCDAGaming@Azzyypaaras Gib panel usernane
Azazelthedemonlord
CDAGamingTeam22:53
Added
KyrptonaughtTeam22:53
Beta-39 is live!
CDAGamingTeam22:53
Got it, Ill swap to that
AzzyypaarasTeam22:53
got dammmn
CDAGamingTeam22:56
Server will be up in a few minutes, provided the ci doesnt fail
Kuro Yure22:56
just to get this out of my system, u guys considered aether exclusive enchantments, or like making aether stuff use a diferent system than enchanting
KyrptonaughtTeam22:56
Would you like me to implement the changes in cpa?
CDAGamingTeam22:56
Sure xD
KyrptonaughtTeam22:57
Where should I register the dispenser behavior?
AzzyypaarasTeam22:57
Replying toKuro Yurejust to get this out of my system, u guys considered aether exclusive enchantments, or…
Yes
Jack PapelTeam22:58
Replying toKuro Yurejust to get this out of my system, u guys considered aether exclusive enchantments, or…
Yes. If you have any specific ideas, feel free to expand on them in #unknown 😄
Kuro Yure22:58
nice
CDAGamingTeam22:58
Servers up xD
I leave Jack and Azzy to monitor for crashes, im off to raid for a bit xD
Jack PapelTeam22:59
Have a fun raid
CDAGamingTeam23:00
Thanks xD Have fun with the new server features :)
KyrptonaughtTeam23:39
Submitted my pr. Skyroot buckets now work in dispensers, and do light portals.
Jack PapelTeam23:53
Thanks 😄