mod-dev-talk Wednesday 21 July 2021

313 messages14 people

  1. SollyTeam

    @role any chance my pr could be looked at?
  2. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Replying toSollyany chance my pr could be looked at?

    oh, pardon, I was typing a micro-essay in #unknown
  3. SollyTeam

    In #deleted-channel
  4. AzzyypaarasTeam

    kal, 24, the rest shall scream at me
  5. SollyTeam

    I see
  6. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Oh, you do not have access
  7. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Replying toAzzyypaaraskal, 24, the rest shall scream at me

    But it is ok, this need be said
  8. FoundationGames

    ok now how are you gonna do it
  9. SollyTeam

    "I am looking at you twilight forest"
  10. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Why do you think I am looking at it :tater:
  11. FoundationGames

    Replying toSollyTwilight forest is amazing aesthetically

    debatable now but in my memory yes
  12. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Replying toFoundationGamesdebatable now but in my memory yes

    Yes, it is peak 1.7 looks
  13. FoundationGames

    art wise it doesn’t look right past 1.12
  14. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Replying toFoundationGamesok now how are you gonna do it

    Slowly and carefully, you would not believe the sheer amount of stuff that has been said in staff channels
  15. FoundationGames

    very epic
  16. AzzyypaarasTeam

    It is
  17. 『Al0r3nt』

    just sounds like a cheesy ass mod that will fail a gain
  18. Jack PapelTeam

    ?
  19. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Replying to『Al0r3nt』just sounds like a cheesy ass mod that will fail a gain

    What 0 pussy does t oa mf
  20. 『Al0r3nt』

    like if you were getting any
  21. Jack PapelTeam

    ^ 7th grade angst
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  22. 『Al0r3nt』

    Sorry mate he's the one who bringed it up, not me
  23. Chung Man

    ...what did I just read
  24. 『Al0r3nt』

    idk
  25. Chung Man

    Replying to『Al0r3nt』just sounds like a cheesy ass mod that will fail a gain

    it doesn't matter whether or not the mod succeeds, as long as the devs have fun and can make something they enjoy
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  26. Jack PapelTeam

    philosophy
  27. 『Al0r3nt』

    ty
  28. Chung Man

    How do you mean?
  29. 『Al0r3nt』

    what I see in the message is not a "At least we'll ahve fun" but a "I try to do what'S best for community"
  30. 『Al0r3nt』

    cool
  31. 『Al0r3nt』

    what my comment stated is that I feel like it'll fail at doing that
  32. AzzyypaarasTeam

    If that is what you took away from that then uh
  33. Jack PapelTeam

    He didn't really mention community at all lol
  34. 『Al0r3nt』

    but anyway I'm off to bed(edited)
  35. Jack PapelTeam

    Alright, sleep well
  36. AzzyypaarasTeam

    mmm, the image does not want to upload
  37. Chung Man

    I mean it's okay to fairly criticise overambition, even if it's not your place to do so, but you're backpedalling off a cliff here with this one.
  38. AzzyypaarasTeam

    aeugh
  39. Jack PapelTeam

    Good point
  40. Chung Man

    whatever happens i'll still be yeeting aroung on the cloud blocks it's really jazzy with other industry mods... like you have this cool fantasy world to explore then BOOM Deforestation. Pollution. Industry. Automation. Jetpacks.(edited)
  41. AzzyypaarasTeam

    The point of the message was not some cheesy bullshit about community or anything of the like, just to clarify.
  42. Salvie

    Hey, for what it's worth (I will almost certainly not comment in here often, maybe never again lol, I literally just join the discords for support and to see what the dev situation is like) that is a goal I can totally get behind. As a full time java dev and an amateur game dev, making something that outlasts a single use / playthrough is an ambitious but highly relatable goal.
  43. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Replying toSalvieHey, for what it's worth (I will almost certainly not comment in here often, maybe never…

    It is, indeed, quite the goal to pursue, but it is one that I will seek 'til the end. It is an upward battle since, in drawing the player's time and energy, we are competing with the overworld which, if nothing else, has a massive upper hand in the fact that it is the overworld, it is the defacto, the place of comfort, and hte place everything feeds back into.
  44. Salvie

    Definitely felt that hahaha
  45. AzzyypaarasTeam

    This is a long term project all in all, there I things I am planning that I doubt will see the light before 2022, and that is fine, the best things come when they come.
  46. Salvie

    True that. I am working on a game rn that I started back in late 2020 and have nothing to show for it yet except a very small demo and the soundtrack I wrote for it lol(edited)
  47. AzzyypaarasTeam

    In the meanwhile, I work on, writing down thoughts, creating concept art, coding when it is due...
  48. Salvie

    Uh, short version: kid opens Pandora's box and unleashes demons. Have to wrangle up the demons alongside your spirit companion Cerridwen, who can use soul power to shapeshift into tools.
  49. AzzyypaarasTeam

    ooh
  50. Salvie

    Haha I appreciate that considering we know nothing about each other hahahaha 😅 I enjoy the work you're doing here as well! Love the Aether, glad to see a fabric version
  51. AzzyypaarasTeam

    AR is... well uh gameplay wise it is pretty obvious, venture around, build, mine, everything you would do down in the overworld but with a skyward twist™️, same idea as the original but greatly expanded and modernized, but you probably already knew that :3
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  52. SollyTeam

    @Azzyypaaras pr or i insert my hair up your butt
  53. SollyTeam

    gn
  54. SollyTeam

    @Jack Papel I made a draft pr with quicksoil rails. Would be great if you could have a look and see if you like the idea
  55. Jack PapelTeam

    I'll be sure to take a look when I have time
  56. SollyTeam

    @CDAGaming Quicksoil speed limit implemented. Any idea how to sync a gamerule to the client? You can see the exact issue in the code(edited)
  57. cr24Team

    Did we move away from json biomes in any way, I noticed some javaside biomes garbage and I think it may be the cause of https://github.com/devs-immortal/The-Aether/issues/401

    GitHub

    Nether Generation is Majorly Affected · Issue #401 · devs-immortal/...
    When using this mod, Nether generation is affected. I have done a lot of testing and can confirm that the simple removal or addition of this mod majorly affects generation. With this mod, most biom...
  58. nailuj

    why is there a Resolved label
    Image shared by nailuj
  59. ColdFlame53

    Wow so thats why my nether was messed up 😮
  60. SollyTeam

    Replying tonailujwhy is there a Resolved label

    Issues resolved but not yet shipped in a release, I believe
  61. cr24Team

    resolved is resolved in dev but not current release, so that we don't get lots of duplicate issues
  62. 『Al0r3nt』

    avoid pinging me please
  63. Jack PapelTeam

    For an advancement for combining swets to a certain size, what's a suitable name?
  64. Haven King

    Man, I loved that game lol
  65. Jack PapelTeam

    Never played, but that sounds like a good idea
  66. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Tomorrow corporation is a great indie studio
  67. gudenau

    Bad_Ping.mp4Video, 1.0 MB. Not stored in the archive.
  68. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Replying togudenauan attachment

    You are a few hours late there bud :3
  69. gudenau

    Yes but it still stands.
  70. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Oh also, gud, I have gotten slightly back to work on dims' textures, you should see a push soon™️
  71. gudenau

    Oh, neat.
  72. CDAGamingTeam

    Replying tonailujwhy is there a Resolved label

    Issues only close when the next release containing the fix is out
  73. Jack PapelTeam

    About to be off to bed, but what if golden swets didn't suck you, and instead dealt greater damage? It would distinguish it a bit more from the others
  74. AzzyypaarasTeam

    ...elemental stuff?
  75. Jack PapelTeam

    Oh, right
  76. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Though that really just pushes it off to whatever swet becomes the new "simply stronk" one
  77. SollyTeam

    Do swets transform when you throw a white swet golden amber?
  78. Jack PapelTeam

    No, but they should
  79. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Idea for golden swets: in addition to their normal sucking stuff, they also release electric arcs whenever they hit the ground
  80. SollyTeam

    How tf do you implement "electric arcs"
  81. Jack PapelTeam

    Electric arc entities, probably
  82. SollyTeam

    But I mean, visually
  83. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Well
  84. SollyTeam

    Swets should farm potatoes when there are no players nearby
  85. Jack PapelTeam

    Villager swets
  86. AzzyypaarasTeam

    :peetarh:
  87. Jack PapelTeam

    > Swet trading(edited)
  88. AzzyypaarasTeam

    swet sex when
  89. SollyTeam

    Wandering swet
  90. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Pillager swets?
  91. Jack PapelTeam

    If you run too much, sweat swet
  92. SollyTeam

    Someone really needs to add basic swet pathfinding so they stop committing suicide on cliffs
  93. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Feel free to baddle with their AI if you want :tater:
  94. Jack PapelTeam

    Yeah someone 👀 should do that can you do it please
  95. SollyTeam

    I can look at it
  96. AzzyypaarasTeam

    And on that note hey jack what if you were to look into electric arc rendering 👀
  97. SollyTeam

    I suck at ai though
  98. AzzyypaarasTeam

    AI is easy, all you gotta do is make a thing extend the thing and then make that part of the other thingy
  99. Jack PapelTeam

    Oh, cool, so you can do aerwhales then 😄
  100. SollyTeam

    Slimes don't extend pathawareentity
  101. AzzyypaarasTeam

    :hyperconcern:
  102. Jack PapelTeam

    Replying toAzzyypaarasAnd on that note hey jack what if you were to look into electric arc rendering 👀

    > Don't know entity models > Don't know rendering > Don't know electricity I'll try my best 😄
  103. AzzyypaarasTeam

    It is either that or water features, pick your poison :tater:
  104. Jack PapelTeam

    Electric arc rendering it is 😄
  105. SollyTeam

    The issue for leading swets can be closed
  106. Jack PapelTeam

    By arc, do you mean arcing from object to object or like arcs of a circle? Cause I think it'd be cool if electricity bounced along the ground in different directions
  107. AzzyypaarasTeam

    The former
  108. Jack PapelTeam

    boe
  109. AzzyypaarasTeam

    They should curve and twist from entity to entity, or from entity to block if there is nothing else nearby
  110. SollyTeam

    What does golden amber have to do with electricity?
  111. AzzyypaarasTeam

    It may also be fun to have them prioritize metal things
  112. Jack PapelTeam

    What doesn't it have to do with electricity?
  113. SollyTeam

    Since when is electricity yellow?
  114. Jack PapelTeam

    Untitled_-_Paint_2021-07-22_00-24-24.mp4Video, 7.0 MB. Not stored in the archive.
  115. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Replying toSollySince when is electricity yellow?

    Have you ever played any nintendo game in your life
  116. SollyTeam

    Fuck nintendo
  117. AzzyypaarasTeam

    :3
  118. Jack PapelTeam

    They make cool games tho :(
  119. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Yes
  120. SollyTeam

    Toxic restrictive software ecosystem
  121. Jack PapelTeam

    Pertaining to ROMs of old games?
  122. SollyTeam

    To anything
  123. Jack PapelTeam

    Other than hostility toward ROMs of old games, I'm not too aware of much else(edited)
  124. AzzyypaarasTeam

    One of the best places to work at in the game industry Makes excellet games Singlehandedly saved the game industry from collapse
    Clearly, they are the scum of the earth
  125. SollyTeam

    I shouldn't have to go through a huge pile of shit to run neofetch on a switch
  126. AzzyypaarasTeam

    That is why you hate them?
  127. Jack PapelTeam

    Wait, like this?
    Image shared by Jack Papel
  128. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Only neofetch I know of
  129. Jack PapelTeam

    You can't do that on xbox or playstation either I'm sure
  130. SollyTeam

    Yes
  131. AzzyypaarasTeam

    I am just wondering why would you do that to a switch
  132. Jack PapelTeam

    Why would you want a command line interface on a switch lol
  133. SollyTeam

    I stick happily with my linux devices
  134. Jack PapelTeam

    What's your phone OS
  135. SollyTeam

    Postmarketos
  136. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Ah, you are one of those peeps that treats OSS as god's gift and anything else as deplorable
  137. SollyTeam

    Yes
  138. Jack PapelTeam

    Linux is cool and all
  139. SollyTeam

    Not quite that strictly, but yes
  140. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Linux is nice
  141. Jack PapelTeam

    I feel like it's great for some applications, but not for everything
  142. SollyTeam

    What right do they have to stop users tweaking a device they bought and own?
  143. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Phone is understandable somewhat, you do tend to keep a lot of private info and it is a personal device
  144. Jack PapelTeam

    Replying toSollyWhat right do they have to stop users tweaking a device they bought and own?

    I understand this logic on a phone or PC
  145. SollyTeam

    And what if I want to grab an emulator for an old console to play games on?
  146. Jack PapelTeam

    True, that should be fine
  147. SollyTeam

    The hardware is fully capable of doing so; they impose the restrictions deliberately in the software
  148. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Everything you have pointed out falls more under the category of systemic issues rather than Nintendo issues
  149. SollyTeam

    Nintento could simply allow custom firmware rather than being a horse ear about it
  150. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Words cannot describe how petty a complaint that is
  151. Jack PapelTeam

    What's the point of having a switch if not for the firmware?? Just buy a tablet?
  152. SollyTeam

    That's not the point
  153. Jack PapelTeam

    I would agree with you on that in almost any other case
  154. AzzyypaarasTeam

    That is true, and you are allowed to do with it as you like. You won't be arrested for modifying it after all
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  155. Jack PapelTeam

    Like phones or PCs
  156. AzzyypaarasTeam

    However, they are not obligated to provide their services under all conditions
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  157. SollyTeam

    If people want to cheat, let them
  158. AzzyypaarasTeam

    No
  159. SollyTeam

    That's their choice
  160. Jack PapelTeam

    :thonk:
  161. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Yes
  162. Jack PapelTeam

    Should soccer players be allowed to cheat?
  163. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Careful jack, that is an irl example, he may just pull out an "it is not the same" and completely ignore your point
  164. SollyTeam

    Do soccer players have their arms tied behind their back to prevent them from cheating?
  165. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Aaaaand he went for it
  166. Jack PapelTeam

    There are refs that prevent them from cheating
  167. AzzyypaarasTeam

    No no, in this case custom firmware would be like soccer players using drugs
  168. SollyTeam

    And in the same way, it's the servers responsibility to enforce rules
  169. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Solly
  170. Jack PapelTeam

    Honestly just a terrible take I'm gonna be honest
  171. SollyTeam

    If you could reasonably enforce it on the client great
  172. AzzyypaarasTeam

    If I am a corporation that is making my own set of games for my own console whose software I made, why the hell would I spend extra time and money creating an additional system to add onto that chain to prevent cheating, which also adds another place where things could go wrong, instead of integrating it into an already existing layer.
  173. SollyTeam

    But you can't without preventing harmless modifications such as recolouring
  174. AzzyypaarasTeam

    And they are reasonably enforcing them, it is a simple TOS like any other
  175. Jack PapelTeam

    Sounds like a minor backpedal there
  176. AzzyypaarasTeam

    I can see where your opposition to my idea of hardmode items being single drop only comes from, you are a stalwart one
  177. SollyTeam

    So they shouldn't let users do anything on their own, because they could instead prevent them from doing it and charge money for it? Great
  178. Jack PapelTeam

    Yeah, you can't really expect anybody to directly support that which directly undercuts them. It's a bit ridiculous
  179. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Yes
  180. Jack PapelTeam

    Like I get it, if only people weren't motivated by money. But they are.
  181. SollyTeam

    Well you'd have to allow them to, the aether is gpl
  182. Jack PapelTeam

    Depends how we'd add the donator moas
  183. AzzyypaarasTeam

    No, no we dnot
  184. Jack PapelTeam

    Yeah you can't redistribute someone else's work(edited)
  185. AzzyypaarasTeam

    And even if, the moa textures themselves are ARR because our assets are ARR
  186. SollyTeam

    You could simply replace the code that checks for the donator status with your own stub
  187. Jack PapelTeam

    You're fighting against your main point, you realize?
  188. AzzyypaarasTeam

    This whole discussion is a mess at any rate
  189. SollyTeam

    ^
  190. Jack PapelTeam

    Yeah, what were we talking about before lol
  191. AzzyypaarasTeam

    What is clear, however, is that your opinion Solly is considered petty and unguaranteed by Jack and I, and probably most people.(edited)
  192. Jack PapelTeam

    ends discussion reopens discussion
  193. AzzyypaarasTeam

    You know what right, this whole thing started because of me saying lightning is yellow, how did we get here
  194. Jack PapelTeam

    lol
  195. AzzyypaarasTeam

    I just dislike weak stances, if you are going to stand by something then have a good reason for it, truly believe in what you believe.
  196. Jack PapelTeam

    Fuck light blue lightning tho(edited)
  197. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Fuck vilification, and that is something I have good reasons to believe in.
  198. SollyTeam

    Yeah yellow lightning makes sense
  199. AzzyypaarasTeam

    tf kind of pissing you doing
  200. Jack PapelTeam

    I was thinking the arcs would be white, but the things that create the arcs would be yellow
  201. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Amma go ahead and say it, but arcs should not be smooth
  202. Jack PapelTeam

    Just realized it won't be as difficult as I thought, since guardians got a similar thing already
  203. SollyTeam

    Golden swets pissing on the player would be great though, ngl
  204. AzzyypaarasTeam

    It is a start, lightning bolt rendering may also be of interest
  205. AzzyypaarasTeam

    Replying toSollyGolden swets pissing on the player would be great though, ngl

    Golden shower time? 😳
  206. AzzyypaarasTeam

    That joke probably makes more sense than you think
  207. Jack PapelTeam

    Oh, look at that