great-lounge Thursday 24 June 2021

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removeduserbanana01:03
CDAGamingTeam01:04
Mmm
SweepSwap01:07
which shader?
removeduserbanana01:07
BSL
CDAGamingTeam01:07
MMM, nice
removeduserbanana01:08
AzzyypaarasTeam01:09
moody aether moody aether
now go find a golden oak tree
removeduserbanana01:12
I haven't seen a single one
I have seen a crystal tree though
CDAGamingTeam01:12
They do spawn, they are just a bit rare
cr24Team01:13
They are only in the thiclet
Thicket
AzzyypaarasTeam01:13
thiccet
You should be able to see them easily, look out for the ugly shaped tree
They used to have nice foliage until 24 said no
SweepSwap01:18
I don't really like bsl
too white looking
removeduserbanana01:22
CDAGamingTeam01:28
Tasty xD
removeduserbanana01:35
SweepSwap03:10
Proof betterend is an amazing mod with amazing visuals
i could've sworm that have of these shaders didn't work in the end with optifine
but it might have been the dev's fault
LudoCrypt03:11
i despise better end
SweepSwap03:11
i despise you
LudoCrypt03:11
good.
SweepSwap03:11
it looks so beautiful
LudoCrypt03:11
sure it looks good
but its a horrible concept
SweepSwap03:11
what is?
LudoCrypt03:12
the whole mod
i hate what it does(edited)
it does it well sure
SweepSwap03:12
i hate the end
LudoCrypt03:12
but its concepts are awful
SweepSwap03:12
normally
no-one said that mods had to abide to any rules
except for not being a fucking virus
removeduserbanana03:14
I like how better end looks, but I'm not a fan of the execution of the mod itself(edited)
~~I also wish I could just use the end sky from it without the rest of the mod~~
SweepSwap03:15
is that your only gripe
removeduserbanana03:15
nah not that just
but from the two times I've used it on servers
it caused some odd issues
SweepSwap03:15
personally it doesn't bother me but if there was a way to know where the end really is, i wouldn't know how likely the sky would be to look like that
SweepSwap03:16
Replying toremoveduserbananait caused some odd issues
like what
removeduserbanana03:16
random console spam, and a small dupe bug (just got fixed the other day luckily)
SweepSwap03:16
yeah
the mod is still very much in beta
i imagine it will be a lot better in a full release
well no
its like a pre release
AzzyypaarasTeam03:17
Replying toSweepSwapan attachment
0.9
Ah yes, the ancient strategy of starting at 0. and never getting out of it
SweepSwap03:18
stressing the PRE part
because its still somewhat buggy if you hyperanalyze it
AzzyypaarasTeam03:19
Listen, if you have been in a pre-release for 9 major versions and fuck knows how many minor ones then you aren't in pre-release.
SweepSwap03:19
no
it was in beta until 0.8.8
AzzyypaarasTeam03:19
hm
Semver is godawful for mods.
SweepSwap03:20
SweepSwap03:20
Replying toAzzyypaarasSemver is godawful for mods.
semver?
AzzyypaarasTeam03:20
Semantic versioning
The whole x.x.x
nailuj03:21
Replying toAzzyypaarasSemver is godawful for mods.
semver is great!
why not for mods
SweepSwap03:21
\
acutally
it was in alpha until 0.4.idfk
.1
AzzyypaarasTeam03:21
Semver is great for libraries because of how it functions, you know that if the first number ticks breakign changes were made
second one ticks? minor changes, maybe some deprecation, mostly additions
Third oen ticks? bugfix
Now, I have a question for you here
Just what in the fuck counts as a breaking or small change for a mod
SweepSwap03:22
breaking would be adding majors things, like biomes and such
well maybe
AzzyypaarasTeam03:22
You could go at it as literally as possible, and only tick up the major version if worlds break and tick up minor for everything else
AzzyypaarasTeam03:22
Replying toSweepSwapbreaking would be adding majors things, like biomes and such
Ah, but that is not breaking, is it?
SweepSwap03:23
thats second tick actually
AzzyypaarasTeam03:23
But if you take it literally then it looses a lot of its purpose, as you are ultimately not really giving players useful info
SweepSwap03:23
in some version they changed the end pillars and added caves
AzzyypaarasTeam03:23
If you redesign half the mod but it does not break then taht is technically minor, but only upping that just is not proper.
Semver does not work well for mods because it does not fit the design patterns of mods properly
SweepSwap03:24
will aether reborn ever change the first tick? 😏
AzzyypaarasTeam03:25
If we were to stick by semver then no
Since there are no breaking changes planned.
But, as aforementioned, that just isn't useful info
Ultimately this is kind of moot, as you can't really choose not to use semver
There are various things in fapi that break if you don't use semver
Your mod won't crash, it will work fine, but various integrations won't be too happy
SweepSwap03:26
wait really?
AzzyypaarasTeam03:26
But there is certainly a point to be made on the fact that it is far from ideal for mod versioning
AzzyypaarasTeam03:27
Replying toSweepSwapwait really?
Yes, there are methods to obtain the version of a mod
FAPI does not use them for anything important, but an auto updater would
SweepSwap03:41
as i suspected, they didn't work with optifabric
but they worked with iris'
og seus
SweepSwap03:42
Replying toSweepSwapas i suspected, they didn't work with optifabric
this was sildurs extreme
gotta say though, chocapic will always be one of my favorite shaders to use in the end, so vibrant and colorful
when there is actual music and not just ambience, except for in maybe one or two biomes i find it very relaxing(edited)
i would 100% do a survival only in the end if i upped the end city spawn rates
SweepSwap04:06
chocapic in the aether
AzzyypaarasTeam04:39
Replying toSweepSwapchocapic in the aether
Go to a wisteria woods biome
SweepSwap04:39
i closed the instance
and removed optifabric
i personally don't care much more chocapic unless im in the betterend end
because of all the vibrant colors and lights there
turning it off so i can get a couple of mods that require newers versions of fapi
SweepSwap05:17
still wondering when 1.17 sodium is coming out
so i can use shaders without lag